Back in October 7^th 2016, Wikileaks published nearly two thousand e-mails from the personal Gmail account of John Podesta, a former White House chief of staff and chairman of Hilary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.  Those of us interested in the subject of UFOs were quick to notice the name of former Blink-182 front-man Tom DeLonge crop up.  Those have been discussed to death, and I had noticed something that was reported by others at the time, but does not seem to be widely discussed at the moment considering it does seem to correlate with a lot of current UFO related rumours.

I fully understand that the following is conjecture, and that it is essentially a ‘I know a guy, who knows a guy,’ story, but the source is quite interesting. The e-mail exchange in particular is from a guy name Robert M. Fish. I’d never heard of him before, but he does have an old website and has some interesting credentials and contacts seemingly. He has a military history and was previously the Apollo Curator at the USS Hornet Museum, and now sits on the Board of Trustees. The following is a quote from his website:

‘ I was given a rare opportunity to meet many exceptional men who were involved with the lunar landing recovery program, starting with RADM Carl Seiberlich. He was the Commanding Officer of the USS Hornet and the Navy’s guiding force behind the successful recoveries of Apollo 11 and Apollo 12.  Over time, I spoke with many of the key NASA, Navy and media officials involved.  It dawned on me there must be other Americans who wanted the “inside scoop” on what it took to fulfill the final part of JFK’s 1961 challenge – to land a man on the Moon and safely return him to Earth.’

Okay, with that out the way he starts of his e-mail to John Podesta with a little intrigue:

Just tuck this in your UFO files for future reference.

One of the government programs that collects hard data on unidentified flying objects is the USAF DSP program.

The Defense Support Program(DSP) is a United States Air Force(USAF ) program that operates the reconnaissance satellites which form the principal component of the Satellite Early Warning System currently used by the United States.  Perhaps, as Mr. Fish alludes to in his first e-mail, those of us interested in hard UFO data have been looking in the wrong place?  He continues with an interesting anecdote:

‘I can add a little insight to rumors published on the web. While I was never fully briefed into the DSP operation directly, I was introduced to them as the US prepared for Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm. On occasion, I had lunch with a few of them in the cafeteria of a highly classified organization in El Segundo, CA.

No one could get into the cafeteria without TS/SCI clearances, so this was not “lightweight group of gossipers.”

One of these times, a member of that group was really excited – said they’d just picked up Fastwalker (I assumed that same day). He described how it entered our atmosphere from “deep space” (origin actually unknown, of course, but from the backside of the satellite) and zipped by the DSP satellite pretty closely on its way to earth.

Not only was it going very fast but it made a 30 degree course correction (turn) which means it did not have a ballistic (free fall) reentry trajectory that a meteorite might have.

So, it was under some sort of control – although whether it was “manned” or just “robotic” there’s no way to tell.’

As mentioned, an interesting anecdote but impossible to verify any of this, but for those of us hungry for little scraps their might be something to it. He concludes this particular e-mail with the following:

‘Somewhere within that USAF program office is many year’s worth of Fastwalker data. If someone were to collect and analyze it, patterns will emerge that provide information about the various types of craft and their destinations, which would add substantiation to eyewitness claims on the ground about UFO activity.

Furthermore, it would be interesting to understand the dates of these appearances – is there a certain time of the every year they swarm in (which might indicate a resource mining operation) or might there be a correlation with major events on earth, (such as the detonation of the first atomic bomb at White Sands in 1945 although no DSP’s existed to provide any info on that particular event)?’

I assume that those up to snuff with FOIA requests are already waiting on documents relating to this particular program, those guys rarely miss a trick! Anyway, these e-mails, to me, were the gift that kept on giving. In another e-mail he starts yet another anecdote that may not have been that interesting before the December 2017 New York Times article, but sure as hell is interesting now:

‘In that same TS/SCI building cafeteria in El Segundo, I had lunch with a senior USAF NCO who had worked for Project Blue Book in the 1970s (after it had been “
officially disbanded). He was an ELINT technician (electronic intelligence) who flew in RC-135s from MacDill AFB in Florida. The normal target was Cuba where they did lots of snooping and sometimes challenging the Cubans to turn on radar and other systems.
 

He said there were times when they were diverted from these missions to track UFOs off the east coast of Florida. His claim was they UFOs had a landing and takeoff spot in the ocean east of Miami, north of Bermuda. 

He also claimed there was a specific electronic signature (frequency) emanating from them when they were going into or coming out of the water, so they were easy to track.

On several occasions they filmed the UFO as it transitioned from water to air or vice versa. One last item is he was occasionally assigned to fly in a USAF weather aircraft (WC-135) when they had a hurricane hunting mission over the usual UFO area, where his specific assignment was kept secret from the other crew members.

He would always report back to a dedicated USAF intelligence officer on base when they returned from a mission. He did not know where the intel that he collected was sent for processing or storage (WPAFB in Dayton would be the obvious choice). High quality film of UFOs is out there somewhere!’

Do UFO encounters off the east coast of Florida ring any bells?  We’ve been hearing quite a lot of this recently. The GIMBAL footage from that previously mentioned NYT article was reportedly caught in this area. David Fravor, former fighter pilot involved in the infamous tic-tac UFO encounter mentioned another encounter off the east coast of Florida on the Fighter Pilot Podcast. If you haven’t listened to that yet, then I recommend that you do.
 

Anyway, since this was a quote heavy post (sorry about that) I’m going to leave you with one last quote from this interesting little series of e-mails:

‘Based on significant personal experience, I can attest that UFO hunters are looking in the wrong places. Random personal observations, fuzzy photographers, and crop circles will never “prove” the existence of anything, especially since UFO appearances to humans are transitory and somewhat related to the observer’s state of mind. ‘

Welcome to the weird….

If anyone has any of their own anecdotes, or interesting information regarding the UFO phenomenon, don’t hesitate to drop me an e-mail or contact me via social media.  I want to hear your story.